[LittleBoyBrownAndBlue]

salam
umm....this is like the whole reason i like got on this forum

i'm gay, i'm attracted to guys. it's an emotion i can't control. i don't see y it's wrong if i am not hurting anyone. if me and another boy really like each other, y can't we just be??

i'm still somewhat closeted; i haven't came out to family and muslim community. this topic will probably raise much talk.

i don't think i am doing anything wrong. i feel no shame in being who i am, i don't feel guilty and i find there to be no reason for that either.

i don't know if u guys have already raised this topic before, but i'd like to do that. Should a muslim community isolate someone who identifies themselves as Gay Lesbian Transgender Trans-sexual Two-Spirited Queer or Questioning? Do muslims really beleive that everyone is heterosexual???

please reply, thnx, salam

[Radhia]

okay... im not trying to be rude or offend you, but is this for real? or are you doing this to see how people will reply?

[Dawud Israel]

Start fasting bro and read the English meaning of the Qur'an regularly. Regardless, what people may say--you have to submit yourself to Allah as a Muslim and do as He says, for your own benefit. That's all it really comes down to.

[mujahideenryder]

Check this blog out bro:

http://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/

Specifically check this out: Advice from Imam Suhaib Webb

[Grosso modo]

salam
umm....this is like the whole reason i like got on this forum

i'm gay, i'm attracted to guys. it's an emotion i can't control. i don't see y it's wrong if i am not hurting anyone. if me and another boy really like each other, y can't we just be??

i'm still somewhat closeted; i haven't came out to family and muslim community. this topic will probably raise much talk.

i don't think i am doing anything wrong. i feel no shame in being who i am, i don't feel guilty and i find there to be no reason for that either.

i don't know if u guys have already raised this topic before, but i'd like to do that. Should a muslim community isolate someone who identifies themselves as Gay Lesbian Transgender Trans-sexual Two-Spirited Queer or Questioning? Do muslims really beleive that everyone is heterosexual???

Asalamu'alaikum brother and welcome to the forums,

this topic has been raised numerous times, but I'll just try to briefly summarize what other (more knowledgable) people have posted, and what I believe to be true myself.
First of all, in Islam it's not the thought that's punishable, but it's the deed...so the fact that you are attracted to the same gender is not haram in and of itself. The act of sodomy, however, is a grave sin in Islam, and an abominable act, as Allah (s.w.t.) mentions in the Qur'an. Moreover, in the Qur'an Allah (s.w.t.) gives us the example of the people of Lot, who were pervasively practicing homosexuality (sodomy). Now, as Muslims we believe in the Qur'an to be the word of God, so why would God not have just left the people of Lot to be, if they weren't committing a grave sin...so basically what i'm trying to get at is if these 'feelings' are not controlled, then they may lead to these detested actions. However, of course, there is hope, and I believe it was Hamzah who posted a site where you can connect with other Muslims who have same-sex attraction, and who are struggling to not give into temptation and to live upright, moral lives. And yes, Muslims believe that every human's natural inclination is heterosexual behaviour, however, we also believe that one's nafs (desires) may call him/her to otherwise...but if he does not act on what the latter calls him to, then he has not sinned. Also, just be careful about this labelling yourself as 'gay', because in accepting that you ARE gay, then you are in effect accepting the lifestyle (mostly based on sodomy) of the gay community...which will then justify any homosexual action as correct in your mind. Btw this whole concept of 'coming out' or 'being gay' was popularized in the 80s...primarily as a political movement and before that was relatively unheard of...but having 'same-sex attraction' has ALWAYS existed throughout the history of humanity and there, again nothing wrong with it, unless you actually do the deed...and also, lastly we as your Muslims brothers and sisters should be here to help you and not to judge you, so feel free to ask any more questions that you may have. I ask God to make your struggle easy for you, and to make it a means of reaffirming your faith.

This post has been edited by mujahid613: 25 March 2007 - 12:31 PM

[Musa]

salamu alaikum bro,
If you are gay you must overcome the desires. All men are attracted to females. We must hold in those desires untill marriage. It is the same thing with homosexuals I think. If you are homosexual, you cant let out your desire. Even get married and all, try to feel attracted to women instead. Correct me if I'm wrong, but actually being homosexual may not be a sin, but doing homosexual activites are very sinful. Overcome your desires bro. There is no place for homosexuality in Islam.

[Adnan Yusuf]

Asalamu'alaikum brother and welcome to the forums,

this topic has been raised numerous times, but I'll just try to briefly summarize what other (more knowledgable) people have posted, and what I believe to be true myself.
First of all, in Islam it's not the thought that's punishable, but it's the deed...so the fact that you are attracted to the same gender is not haram in and of itself. The act of sodomy, however, is a grave sin in Islam, and an abominable act, as Allah (s.w.t.) mentions in the Qur'an. Moreover, in the Qur'an Allah (s.w.t.) gives us the example of the people of Lot, who were pervasively practicing homosexuality (sodomy). Now, as Muslims we believe in the Qur'an to be the word of God, so why would God not have just left the people of Lot to be, if they weren't committing a grave sin...so basically what i'm trying to get at is if these 'feelings' are not controlled, then they may lead to these detested actions. However, of course, there is hope, and I believe it was Hamzah who posted a site where you can connect with other Muslims who have same-sex attraction, and who are struggling to not give into temptation and to live upright, moral lives. And yes, Muslims believe that every human's natural inclination is heterosexual behaviour, however, we also believe that one's nafs (desires) may call him/her to otherwise...but if he does not act on what the latter calls him to, then he has not sinned. Also, just be careful about this labelling yourself as 'gay', because in accepting that you ARE gay, then you are in effect accepting the lifestyle (mostly based on sodomy) of the gay community...which will then justify any homosexual action as correct in your mind. Btw this whole concept of 'coming out' or 'being gay' was popularized in the 80s...primarily as a political movement and before that was relatively unheard of...but having 'same-sex attraction' has ALWAYS existed throughout the history of humanity and there, again nothing wrong with it, unless you actually do the deed...and also, lastly we as your Muslims brothers and sisters should be here to help you and not to judge you, so feel free to ask any more questions that you may have. I ask God to make your struggle easy for you, and to make it a means of reaffirming your faith.

Well said.

[Extempers]

EVERYONE stop posting until this guy posts again, cause it sounds extremely fishy

If it's not, we've had another topic and I'll gladly talk about this again.

Thumbs up to mujahids post

This post has been edited by Extempers: 25 March 2007 - 12:46 PM

[Sister Who]

Isnt Irshad Manji anti islam? Or have i got the wrong person?

[Extempers]

IMAAN is a horrible "group" that used to be call Al-Fatiha. They've been approached many times over by Muslims, but they reject any intelligent discussion let alone following the Qur'an.

For Allah's sake, I can't believe someone on this forum quoted that link.

As for Irshad Manji...she's a complete sell-out. Who buys her books? People who hate Muslims or think Islam needs to be "reformed". My Allah, I keep typing things but it's not making sense, I'm in shock!

Astigfurallah man astigfurallah

Can we at least disable the links on here

This post has been edited by Extempers: 25 March 2007 - 01:32 PM

[starshine]

where's a mod when you need one? *looks around*

[r-z]

suspicious character.
my guess is a bait from the "certian" people.

if the guy is sincere in seeking guidance, there are other threads. Use the search facility

[Omar]

I think this thread should be left open. We shouldn't guess, that is to act without sufficient knowledge. For now, we should assume this is a legitimate thread from a person seeking help.

And perhaps this thread will prove to be beneficial to others.

This post has been edited by Omar: 25 March 2007 - 03:50 PM

[r-z]

okay...
I take it back

[Omar]

Alright cool. I understand your concern, and you may very well be right. But I think we should wait and see what happens first